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is it different now under it's new ruler kim jong un? >> i think we're starting with kim jong un that a younger man exposed to outside world would rule differently. he is very much in line with his elders and determines to make problems and not solutions. threat from north korea is multifast fast set. there is the threat with south korea that is weomg at times but proliferation is a grave threat. it's tied directly in the same proliferation networks as iran. you can imagine the longer range missiles moving through north africa, well within the range of the east coast. >> kelly: i know you mentioned a bipartisan miscalculation. did the obama administration when it first got started miscalculate the north koreans and same can be said toward iran and apparent nuclear build-up? >> i think you can make the case. they misjudged how they can influence the behavior of china and russia in a positive way. they miscalculated how quickly rogue leaders are able to acquire these weapons under a sanctioned regime. >> kelly: so based on that what is the united states need toin r development and threats as we s
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